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Halloween Discussion and Debate Thread: OVERRATED HORROR FILMS

I'll start: Overrated but still good/great *Psycho *The...
MPA (retired due to anti-Irish racism)
  10/12/17
Mostly agreed. Think ALIEN is great but don't consider it ho...
twins
  10/12/17
I think Saw would have made an interesting stage play
MPA (retired due to anti-Irish racism)
  10/12/17
Yes! Maybe as a comedy by John McDonagh LJL.
twins
  10/12/17
Daughters of Darkness Cannibal Holocaust The Fly (80s) Ma...
animeboi
  10/12/17
are you saying Manos is even worse than its reputation as th...
twins
  10/12/17
People try to pull the whole "its so bad its good"...
animeboi
  10/12/17
that's how I felt about attack of the killer tomatoes
coldplayfan
  10/12/17
But that film was intentionally bad ("camp"). I d...
animeboi
  10/12/17
ah. usually when people say "it's so bad it's good"...
twins
  10/12/17
Agreed on Daughters of Darkness; it looks great but it doesn...
coldplayfan
  10/12/17
Psycho is Hitchcock's masterpiece and a T10 all-time movie f...
neil young
  10/12/17
It's a little too jerky; lots of the middle doesn't really w...
coldplayfan
  10/12/17
define "the middle" (where does it start and end) ...
neil young
  10/12/17
Boring shit after murder 1 and before murder 2
coldplayfan
  10/12/17
The Ring (2002)
disco fries
  10/12/17
Fuck you, that movie rules.
Get Thee To The Rapery
  10/12/17
Psycho is one of the best movies ever made. A recent horr...
Oh, you travel?
  10/12/17
I lieked it
coldplayfan
  10/12/17
Event Horizon is widely-liked but I thought it was atrocious...
CharlesXII
  10/12/17
i liked it a lot when i saw it, but i was 17 at the time and...
Joe Satriani frowning at coldplay fan tp
  10/12/17
Interesting. I saw it when I was 15 or 16 and my friend and ...
CharlesXII
  10/12/17
...
CharlesXII
  10/12/17
Saw 1 is definitely not overrated
.;:..;:;.:.;.,,,.,.:,.;;,;;;..;,
  10/12/17
Saw III is the only actually good one. I also think the twis...
coldplayfan
  10/12/17
i LOVE saw 3. my favorite out of the 5 (i think?) that ive s...
Joe Satriani frowning at coldplay fan tp
  10/12/17
Saw 1's twist is legendary, and 2's twist is definitely unde...
.;:..;:;.:.;.,,,.,.:,.;;,;;;..;,
  10/12/17
...
Joe Satriani frowning at coldplay fan tp
  10/12/17
It (2017)
~~(>' ' )>
  10/12/17
mpa, what are your thoughts on high tension and wolf creek? ...
Joe Satriani frowning at coldplay fan tp
  10/12/17
Haven't seen either yet. I like new French extremity but the...
coldplayfan
  10/12/17
yeah honestly it would have been a better movie without the ...
Joe Satriani frowning at coldplay fan tp
  10/12/17
It's on the list maybe tomorrow night
coldplayfan
  10/12/17
the shining was never actually scary
a den of proles
  10/12/17
not really scary, but that bedroom scene at the end with the...
.;:..;:;.:.;.,,,.,.:,.;;,;;;..;,
  10/12/17
hilarious he kept that in but cut the whole subplot re: the ...
twins
  10/12/17
you're not supposed to be scared Jack will come at you; it's...
twins
  10/12/17
True although the book does a better job of that. The horror...
coldplayfan
  10/12/17
I think The Shining (film, Kubrick) may work better if you'v...
twins
  10/12/17
Yeah I saw it before becoming a lawyer
coldplayfan
  10/12/17
...
twins
  10/13/17
Suspiria was SPS. Just a bag of gimmicks. Nosferatu (1922...
twins
  10/12/17
dude, its from fucking 1922. cut it some slack.
Joe Satriani frowning at coldplay fan tp
  10/12/17
It (2017) It Follows I Know What You Did Last Summer The...
.;:..;:;.:.;.,,,.,.:,.;;,;;;..;,
  10/12/17
i wasn't that impressed by evil dead. a bit too campy.
,.,..,.,..,.,.,.,..,.,.,,..,..,.,,..,.,,.
  10/13/17


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Date: October 12th, 2017 8:50 AM
Author: MPA (retired due to anti-Irish racism)

I'll start:

Overrated but still good/great

*Psycho

*The Conjuring

*Suspiria

*The Fog

Overrated but okay:

*The Exorcist

*Ringu

*Friday the 13th

*Hostel

*Paranormal Activity

*Let's Scare Jessica to Death

*Alien

Overrated and SPS:

*Saw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3761789&forum_id=2#34423688)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 8:51 AM
Author: twins

Mostly agreed. Think ALIEN is great but don't consider it horror.

SAW would've been much better in prose. The story idea is good, but the action is all characterological.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3761789&forum_id=2#34423689)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 8:52 AM
Author: MPA (retired due to anti-Irish racism)

I think Saw would have made an interesting stage play

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3761789&forum_id=2#34423693)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 8:53 AM
Author: twins

Yes! Maybe as a comedy by John McDonagh LJL.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3761789&forum_id=2#34423698)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 9:01 AM
Author: animeboi

Daughters of Darkness

Cannibal Holocaust

The Fly (80s)

Manos: The Hands of Fate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3761789&forum_id=2#34423727)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 9:03 AM
Author: twins

are you saying Manos is even worse than its reputation as the worst?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3761789&forum_id=2#34423734)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 9:38 AM
Author: animeboi

People try to pull the whole "its so bad its good" meme with it, which is wrong because its just boring.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3761789&forum_id=2#34423859)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 10:08 AM
Author: coldplayfan

that's how I felt about attack of the killer tomatoes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3761789&forum_id=2#34424044)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 7:50 PM
Author: animeboi

But that film was intentionally bad ("camp"). I don't like that kind of gay shit either.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3761789&forum_id=2#34428611)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 10:12 AM
Author: twins

ah. usually when people say "it's so bad it's good" I stop listening after the third word.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3761789&forum_id=2#34424082)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 10:06 AM
Author: coldplayfan

Agreed on Daughters of Darkness; it looks great but it doesn't deliver the goods

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3761789&forum_id=2#34424024)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 9:41 AM
Author: neil young

Psycho is Hitchcock's masterpiece and a T10 all-time movie faggot

The problem is classifying it as "horror." Imagine if it were released today - it would be a "crime thriller" or something

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3761789&forum_id=2#34423866)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 10:05 AM
Author: coldplayfan

It's a little too jerky; lots of the middle doesn't really work beyond being an engine to get to the next set piece.

Frenzy, Rear Window, North by Northwest, Shadow of a Doubt all better

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3761789&forum_id=2#34424018)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 10:16 AM
Author: neil young

define "the middle" (where does it start and end) before i engage u further

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3761789&forum_id=2#34424119)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 6:42 PM
Author: coldplayfan

Boring shit after murder 1 and before murder 2



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3761789&forum_id=2#34428141)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 9:43 AM
Author: disco fries

The Ring (2002)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3761789&forum_id=2#34423873)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 10:12 AM
Author: Get Thee To The Rapery

Fuck you, that movie rules.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3761789&forum_id=2#34424076)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 10:13 AM
Author: Oh, you travel?

Psycho is one of the best movies ever made.

A recent horror movie that was praised but is actually pretty bad is Drag Me to Hell

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3761789&forum_id=2#34424091)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 10:15 AM
Author: coldplayfan

I lieked it



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3761789&forum_id=2#34424109)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 10:16 AM
Author: CharlesXII (CharlesXII)

Event Horizon is widely-liked but I thought it was atrocious. Friend and I didn't find it scary at all and instead just laughed through the whole thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3761789&forum_id=2#34424120)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 6:43 PM
Author: Joe Satriani frowning at coldplay fan tp

i liked it a lot when i saw it, but i was 17 at the time and i have better taste now than i did then

i want to re-watch it and see what i think now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3761789&forum_id=2#34428152)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 7:40 PM
Author: CharlesXII (CharlesXII)

Interesting. I saw it when I was 15 or 16 and my friend and I simply couldn't stop laughing at it. Not a good vibe for a non-campy horror film.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3761789&forum_id=2#34428515)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 6:41 PM
Author: CharlesXII (CharlesXII)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3761789&forum_id=2#34428132)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 6:42 PM
Author: .;:..;:;.:.;.,,,.,.:,.;;,;;;..;,


Saw 1 is definitely not overrated

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3761789&forum_id=2#34428140)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 6:43 PM
Author: coldplayfan

Saw III is the only actually good one. I also think the twist in II is underrated

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3761789&forum_id=2#34428148)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 6:44 PM
Author: Joe Satriani frowning at coldplay fan tp

i LOVE saw 3. my favorite out of the 5 (i think?) that ive seen

i also like saw 1 and 2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3761789&forum_id=2#34428156)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 6:46 PM
Author: .;:..;:;.:.;.,,,.,.:,.;;,;;;..;,


Saw 1's twist is legendary, and 2's twist is definitely underrated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3761789&forum_id=2#34428178)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 6:48 PM
Author: Joe Satriani frowning at coldplay fan tp



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3761789&forum_id=2#34428198)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 6:43 PM
Author: ~~(>' ' )>

It (2017)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3761789&forum_id=2#34428147)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 6:45 PM
Author: Joe Satriani frowning at coldplay fan tp

mpa, what are your thoughts on high tension and wolf creek?

the first time i saw high tension i was really stoned and it scared the shit out of me. the second time i saw it i was like "hrm, this isnt scary at all". idk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3761789&forum_id=2#34428164)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 6:49 PM
Author: coldplayfan

Haven't seen either yet. I like new French extremity but the twist to high tension sounds so ball crushingly dumb

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3761789&forum_id=2#34428211)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 6:51 PM
Author: Joe Satriani frowning at coldplay fan tp

yeah honestly it would have been a better movie without the twist

i think it scared me so much bc i was stoned but i was legit terrified the entire movie

watch wolf creek then and let me know what you think.

YOU STILL NEED TO WATCH LOST HIGHWAY BTW. :)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3761789&forum_id=2#34428228)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 6:52 PM
Author: coldplayfan

It's on the list maybe tomorrow night

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3761789&forum_id=2#34428234)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 6:52 PM
Author: a den of proles

the shining was never actually scary

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3761789&forum_id=2#34428236)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 6:53 PM
Author: .;:..;:;.:.;.,,,.,.:,.;;,;;;..;,


not really scary, but that bedroom scene at the end with the guy in the pig mask blowing the butler really fucked me in the head as a child

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3761789&forum_id=2#34428249)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 6:54 PM
Author: twins

hilarious he kept that in but cut the whole subplot re: the weird sex parties. i'm sure there's a callback in EWS or something.

Also LJL at the camera-slip in the opening scene. Amateurish!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3761789&forum_id=2#34428258)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 6:53 PM
Author: twins

you're not supposed to be scared Jack will come at you; it's scary you might become Jack.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3761789&forum_id=2#34428250)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 6:56 PM
Author: coldplayfan

True although the book does a better job of that. The horror in the book is Jack can't keep it together. But as King points out, from scene 1 in the film you can tell Jack is nuts

The Shining is a work of art don't get me wrong, but I do prefer the psychological realism, and almost Zola-esque naturalism, of the novel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3761789&forum_id=2#34428270)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 7:47 PM
Author: twins

I think The Shining (film, Kubrick) may work better if you've been socialized to everyday psychopathy to the extent Jack Nicholson's unworldly mugging doesn't seem entirely out of place in a quotidian setting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3761789&forum_id=2#34428592)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 7:56 PM
Author: coldplayfan

Yeah I saw it before becoming a lawyer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3761789&forum_id=2#34428660)



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Date: October 13th, 2017 7:44 PM
Author: twins



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3761789&forum_id=2#34437141)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 6:53 PM
Author: twins

Suspiria was SPS. Just a bag of gimmicks.

Nosferatu (1922) is boring AF. Maybe revolutionary @ the time but let's get serious. Not a good movie.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3761789&forum_id=2#34428244)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 6:54 PM
Author: Joe Satriani frowning at coldplay fan tp

dude, its from fucking 1922. cut it some slack.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3761789&forum_id=2#34428257)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 7:58 PM
Author: .;:..;:;.:.;.,,,.,.:,.;;,;;;..;,


It (2017)

It Follows

I Know What You Did Last Summer

The Mist



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3761789&forum_id=2#34428676)



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Date: October 13th, 2017 12:13 AM
Author: ,.,..,.,..,.,.,.,..,.,.,,..,..,.,,..,.,,.


i wasn't that impressed by evil dead. a bit too campy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3761789&forum_id=2#34430890)